I remember all but Hole in the Wall being discussed repeatedly on the forums, before, during, and after the shows aired. We mostly bashed them for being half-baked (or just sucking), but offered suggestions...very SIMPLE suggestions on how the shows could\'ve become passable. Like the two Travises, I thought Show Me the Money was a solid enough concept being produced by the wrong people*. Honestly, a few forum members have produced shows, but for the most part, quite a few solid suggestions have come from the Invision boards..........unfortunately, they also stayed on the Invision boards. :-P
The three shows had the potential to at least run for a few seasons. In the case of the ABC shows, the gimmicks far overshadowed the gameplay, and it killed any possible momentum.
*How I\'d do it: make it a daytime/syndicated show for about 1/20 of the budget (don\'t remember the total value one could win...I just know a lady won $600K+), cut the idiotic dancing, and you\'re on to something. Replace the models with civilians who stay all week...and if you flame out, said contestant takes your place, a la Jackpot.